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How are my favorite fellow Bible students doing? My small group has gotten so much out of Jennifer’s study, Me, Myself and Lies. Honestly, we can’t stay within our time limit for discussion to save our lives but that’s what tells me the study is getting to us! I hope the Holy Spirit is speaking to you, too. Where on earth would we be without God and His Word? Lord, have mercy. If you’re able to stay on schedule, you should have weeks 3 and 4 of your homework completed and your group discussion will be a reflection of that material. I hope you can watch the video instructions I’ve prepared for you but, just in case you have technical difficulty, here is a list of your four interactives for today’s gathering:
(The first two are from Week 3; The second set is from Week 4.)
1. In our LPM small group discussion, we never made it past the second page of Day One without stopping for discussion. Look at the top of p.57 and note the track Jennifer gave us from emotions to thoughts to actions. Discuss its relevance and any recent examples. At the bottom of that same page, she refers to “THINKING WITH OUR FEELINGS.” Discuss this familiar female propensity as well.
2. Turn to p.65 where we studied the woman with the issue of blood. In the first full paragraph, Jennifer writes, “We often face one defining circumstance that becomes the headwater from which other issues flow.” Would some of you be willing to share what your “one defining circumstance” is and how it tends to affect a number of different areas?
OK, this is not a discussion question but I want to mention it because it was one of my very favorite things and I’ve thought about it a ton since I read it. Take a glance at p.73 where Jennifer shares the story about being stuck on a plane and the little girl near her saying to her daddy, “I spy something good.” Did that speak to you, too?
Now, from Week Four:
3. Based on p.81. where Jennifer discusses what we say to ourselves when we talk to ourselves about sin: What has been your most recurrent conviction lately and what are you doing about it? (If you’re not presently doing anything about it, admitting it to your group is a start!)
Discuss how she ties up the point on p.87 with these words: “Never let the Enemy be more aware of your weaknesses than you are.”
4. Review p.88. Do you have a framework set up in your life for consistent accountability? Do you have at least one person in your life who holds you accountable in your pursuit of God and godliness and doesn’t just help you stay comfortable in your strongholds? Look at Jennifer’s statement: “The Enemy goes after the solitary and the silent.”
Discuss the fears involved in opening up to accountability and the solutions to those fears. What holds us back? Is it time? Exposure? Fear of confidence being betrayed? Talk about fears, solutions, and the importance of taking the chance.
That should keep you busy today and smack in the middle of each other’s business!Thank you so much for participating. Study hard! See you in two weeks and we’ll finish up!
I love you so much.
On pg 65, I recognize that I'm emotionally strained. I live in a home with two people who are constantly raging: a child with autism and a spouse with bipolar disorder. I was raised by an abusive Dad, so when these issues presented in my own home I was just bleeding inside.
Because my emotions are exhausted, I'm always defensive and hypersensitive to trouble. Sometimes I imagine trouble that does not exist and make a situation worse. My thought process is "if you increase the volume of your voice, I get ready for battle." Not a healthy way to live.
The result of living with an emotionally drained thought closet is that I don't see past the wall of anger and I constantly flee from conflict rather than learn from conflict.
Sometimes, emotions to actions can actually be healthy for me. I'm very compassionate and if a friend is sick or a child is in need, you'll find me packing up a care package with cards, flowers, and healing foods. I'm showing love with my actions. The emotion becomes unhealthy when I become consumed with healing another person, knowing that it is God who heals, not me. It's best to give a box of herbal tea, ginger cookies, tissues and a pretty card with a prayer tucked inside, and move on. Martha is learning to be more like Mary!
Solo Siesta
1. I think one of the hardest things in cleaning the thought closet is figuring out the root of the problem. Often, triggers spur emotions and thoughts so quickly that it is hard to stop, go back, and trace what caused it and what the lie is.
3. My biggest issue lately is that God has been showing me that I use thoughts of my bff to pacify myself when I am hurting, which is idolatry. God has now separated us, so I am finally submitting this and trying to reprogram, but it is a painful process.
One more thing – symbolic – as we clean out our thought closets, I started actually cleaning out the closets in my house. Interestingly, the one I started with had a stack of papers that I have been sorting through – notes from Bible studies, journal entries, etc. As I go through these papers, I am throwing away the unimportant things and sorting the good Bible notes. Also, I am also revisiting the incredible journey God has had me on in the last 7 years by organizing the journal entries. In some ways we have come so far, yet a few issues remain the same.
I would encourage others to try this – clean out a closet or two. Whether it is paperwork or just a bunch of junk that has gotten tossed in there over the years. Purge the unnecessary stuff and organize the rest. The sense of accomplishment is like a physical display of what we are doing in our minds.
Thanks SiestaMama!
Michele M
Liverpool, NY
I'm not actually doing the Bible study so I hope I'm not doing a no-no by posting. Just wanted to say that something you said today really struck a chord with me. This statement…."The enemy goes after the solitary and the silent". That describes me for as long as I can remember! Solitary. Silent. Maybe I need to change my ways. Thanks for the thought!
God bless y'all.
Marilyn…in Mississippi
1. The emotion that I often feel is being hurt by my husband for something he did not do that IN MY MIND I wanted him to. I struggle with this less now than I did 4 years ago, however, it's still a struggle. The thought that comes out of that is that I must not be worthy; he must not love me. The action is being upset with him or taking anger out on him. How silly is it that I can't just TELL him what I want and need? I am SO guilty of thinking with my feelings. I'm so glad you referred back to that today because I sure didn't give it enough thought when I read it!
3. I had to re-think on this one as well. I have had a serious issue come up lately. I'm so glad that you're using the scripture about tongues lately, because mine could use some taming! I have someone in my life who is downright horrible to me. She doesn't like me, doesn't want to be around me, feels like I've taken the spotlight off of her, etc. I feel that it's not right for her to feel that way, but she does. She's going through a rough patch in her life right now and I think she's taking it out on me. I've been very vocal to my husband and my mother and some of my friends about how horrible she is to me. I feel like the best thing to do is not to talk about it anymore. I need to not let her get me angry and upset. I need to pray for her and the situation she's in and not take it personally that she attacks me whenever we're together. The Enemy was definitely enjoying watching me get down about this. I'm taking the high road.
4. Iwould love to have an accountability partner. We've just moved to a new area and I literally don't know anyone. The women I worked with last year I won't be around anymore because I'm changing jobs to become a stay-at-home-mom. I desperately need someone in my life to be a friend and hold me accountable. That's one thing I'm continuing to pray for.
When you said the "C" word I was tempted to click the off button. Girl, do not mess with my coffee! You're slapping my coffee cup hand. Could we be drinking too much coffee, the nectar of Satan? Is coffee is the ember of anger? Oh Beth….please don't go there Sister…you're making me squirm. Blessings from the hostess of the Bible Cafe!
Our group was small today. Several out of town on vacation. But two of us met anyway.
We could really identify with the emotion, thought, action sequence and had great discussion about how being aware of the emotion as a trigger for the other two is good. Actually, we decided that this study has really done that for us – raised our awareness – awareness of emotions that lead to negative thoughts and actions, awareness of the lies we are accepting and clothing ourselves with, awareness of God's voice of truth versus the insults hurled at us by the enemy.
We ended by being very aware that we will need each other at work (our group members all work at the same school) and that when school starts again and those emotions start flying we can help one another be accountable and remind each other to 4:8 our thinking. (We both loved that verse and had it written on cards before we met today.)
Wow! This is good stuff and we're so glad to be in God's word this summer, cleaning out our closets. So, when we go back to school and we're asked what we did this summer, we're gonna say, "We cleaned out our closets!"
Totally excited by God's word …
My sister and I met via Skype this afternoon. We agree that this study is making us more and more conscious of the fact that thoughts follow emotions and actions follow thoughts, so if we want to avoid an "issue" then we'd better not let the thought closet get cluttered up. We also made a pact to just "spy" something good!
Judy, Littleton, NC
Carolyn, Oceanside, CA
PS. We will see you in Greensboro next weekend!
Greetings Spiritual Mom Beth:) from Ashley and Katie
My Bible study partner Ashley and I started thinking about ques. 1, and Ashley said that she thinks that maybe thoughts can lead to emotions that lead to action. Like when the enemy tries to place a thought in your mind, and you can choose to dwell on the thought or you can take it captive. Emotions can react to that initial thought and then action takes place. Ashley and I both think that under our defining circumstance is always the issue of trusting God or not, being surrendered to His will for us or not. Ashley is most convicted about choosing to take every thought captive, and to make sure that unwelcome thoughts don't stay. Mine is an aspect of that; I am constantly trying to confess and forsake pride and all its obvious and subtle forms. Accountablility is needed, and we want to be sure we are trusting the people God would have for us to confide in, making sure that even in accntblty, there are appropriate boundaries in that relationship. Healthy acctablty.
Blessings to you today:), ((HUGS)), Love in Him,
katiegfromtennessee
Hi Sweet Mama Beth,
I struggle with perfection. It has been an issue of late especially since we have been on a financially roller coaster with hubby not having a job, now getting one but not check until Sept. I have found myself thinking I have to do everything perfect to keep things together, including being strong for hubby and children when I feel far from it. God has helped me to see this idea of perfection started long before now but I was good at throwing it in the bin and hiding it in the back of my thought closet. So I am realizing I don't have to be perfect I can be who I am at the moment and let God and I work on it together…hard thing to learn but slowly I am. The bin is not been completely thrown out of the closet but it is not hiding int he back either.
and I don't have an accountability partner either. I am praying on this. Sometimes it is lonely especially living in a rural area where walking next door is not easily done. But God has been helping me see I need to be held accountable and have a person to open my heart to. I am sure it would have made the journey I spoke of above easier. So I continue to pray.
Love and hugs
Tammy S.
Howells, NE (going solo)
ps Mama Beth I just loved your black sweater that was so cute. and thanks for the info on caffine I am sure it was my problem yesterday driving from place to place and I couldn't possibly understand why people were driving like they were out of their minds. I am sure now it was me.
Jennifer mentioned the need for accountability partners. Scripture speaks of a 3 stranded cord isn't easily broken in Ecc 4:12. We discussed a bit how this looks different for everyone. God has shown Betty and I the package for "accountability partner" doesn't look as traditional for us. The holy spirit is using several folks in different arenas of our walks to sharpen us, to check us in our temptations. Our husbands help us in some areas of struggles and keep us grounded where our close girlfriends or Sunday school teacher might challenge and encourage us in others. Our God is so diverse to teach us and show us how He doesn't fit in any manmade box. Thank you Jesus!!!
We enjoyed learning about how our feelings turn into thoughts and our thoughts turn into actions. It is good to be reminded that we have a choice in this pattern and can decide which path we want our thoughts and actions to take.
– Heather and Shannon
Amarillo, Texas
Our group resonated with the comment about "spying" something good in each situation. We are really working on this area of our lives. Our goal this week is to turn the usual "negative" thoughts into "positive" ones. For example, if we get upset about something, instead of going from emotion (crying or yelling) to thought (irrational) to action (doing or saying something we might regret), we are going to respond to a "trigger" event differently. We are going to say to ourselves: "I spy something good!" and see the positive side of our circumstances. We know that God is in control and He can bring good from things that seem bad.
The East Greenbush, NY chapter of the Summer Siestas had a meat-and-potatoes meeting this morning. No fluff here, not today. Those closets are full of junk, and we're determined to get free. Wow, do I love these friends. We decided we have to continue meeting once a month come school time. Accountability brings out the best and worst in us, so we can get healed and get going. So glad the church of Jesus Christ is a hospital for the sick and not a
pageant for the perfect.
Learning and growing on the pilgrim road,
Loriann
Joanne
Phyllis
Judy
Maryann
Arleen
My "defining circumstance" is too personal to share, but I can tell you it affects how I think and feel, and it used to affect how I saw my future. I'm realizing that I'm not defined by this circumstance, and "I am more than a conqueror!"
My most recent conviction dealt with putting God first and making sure I'm seeking Him and not His hand. I'm in the process of changing my daily schedule so my study time is in the morning instead of at night.
I'm presently praying for an accountability partner (close-by). Due to moving to a new area, I haven't found a home church yet, and I know that will help.
To God Be the Glory!
Patti, Kissimmee, FL
The mother/daughter group in Goldsboro, NC met tonight. We had great discussion about our feelings, thoughts, and actions among our life defining circumstance. The mothers have accountability partners (each other) but the girls had not thought about that before. They have committed to be each others partner in the coming days. We are all growing in Christ this summer through this study!
Susan, Courtney, Lisa, and Nicole
Patty and I met at lunch today. We really connected and both agreed that this study is allowing us to begin to understand more about the roots of what we say to each other. We both found we identified with different scripture that had very deep meaning to both of us. We agreed to be each other's accountablility partners.
We ended in prayer. I spoke the prayer and the Holy Spirit was in my heart as I prayed over both of us and a friend who is going through some health issues. It was a great hour!
I wanted to share with you a small Thanksgiving, but one I do not see very often. This weekend I read an interview with actor Stephen Moyer in the most recent issue of Venice magazine. In it he stated that he had been raised in the church but had turned his back on it… "But some things happened that changed my way of thinking. And actually all I did was just let go of not believing." Praise the Lord! We prayed for him to be able to fight the spiritual warfare he will undoubtly encounter in his profession and living and working in Hollywood.
Anyway, Patty and I are looking forward to the next 2 weeks. Personally, I am excited and a little sad that it will end.
I ask for all your prayers as God has called two other ladies and me to take over leading the Beth Moore study group in our church and community. In the past it has been 75+ women in two groups. We need your prayers for God's leadership in the ministry He is calling us to do.
Blessings to all of our Siesta and our very special Siesta mama, Beth,
Mary Ann & Patty
3M Company, St. Paul (Woodbury), MN
First and foremost! Don't go messin' with our caffeine. The reverse can also be true. A lack of coffee can lead to crazy thoughts and downright meaness.
Seriously, we had a powerful time tonight discussing the interactives. As I try to summarize the highlights, I am overwhelmed trying to keep this brief. The Lord did a work among us tonight and I want to tell it all to His glory but I will spare you and stick with two highlights.
We all struggle with being awakened to sin in our lives. Since none of us are blatant criminals and are Christian women, we shared that we struggle with confession. We all run down a mental checklist and seem to be just fine. Can you say spiritual pride??? Boy, week 4's work opened our eyes to the sin entrenched in our thought closets. Others might not see it but the Lord knows. We have more cleaning to do – the story of our lives!
Two of the three of us do not nor ever have had accountability partners/sisters. God is impressing this need on our hearts. Our one star student shared how a 19 year relationship with her accountability partner has keep her on track in her relationship with the Lord. We are praying for accountability partners. We do have some questions. Do you think we need to seek someone older and wiser or are we good with someone our own age? Are we making this harder than it is?
I said two comments. Forgive me as I end with a third. We LOVE the "I Spy Something Good" game. It is helping us keep a godly perspective during the various life challenges each of us is experiencing.
Thank You ~ Thank You ~ Thank You for this great summer experience. To God be the Glory.
Karen, Peggy & Leigh
Montgomery, AL
Going Solo.
This is an awesome study.
1-Personal but true and I needed to deal with it. I am a slave to my feeling but i am seeing a difference since starting this study.
2-The youngest of 7 children and being totally ignored and having no value=insecurity for sure.
3-I have a couple of people to hold me accountable, but I do fear burdening them.
Sharon
Wasington, IL
Hello fellow siestas! I cannot begin to tell you how much I needed this study! Homework:
1) Emotion: anger. Leads to Thought: How dare she imply that about me. Stupid woman! Leading to Action: tears followed by a raging tantrum with threats (not to her, but about her). Okay, I'm not proud of this, however the accountability thing comes into play here and maybe some of you will pray for me in this area.
2) My defining moment was my first divorce. It has left me bitter and angry and I have trust issues. My first husband cheated on me multiple times and tried to give me an STD (praise the Lord he didn't). This affects every aspect of my life. I do not trust easily and Satan knows he can use this to stir up strife in my life.
I absolutely loved the story of the little girl and her father on the airplane. I need to do this more frequently. I tried it and it helps in times of stress to "spy something good". Keeps me focused on all the blessings in my life that the Lord has provided!
3) I have been most convicted of anger and bitterness lately. This study has been a starting point and I know that the Lord is clearly telling me that its time to work through these issues instead of just dwelling in them.
4) When you ask about accountability, I have to honestly confess that I am not really accountable to anyone. My best friend is someone I can talk to and confide in, but I am realizing that I don't share the really important stuff with her. I share the issues on the surface (daily life), but never really share the important ones that I need to be held accountable on. I believe this is all tied to the trust issue brought on by my first husband's actions and consequently my divorce (see question #2 above). I know that accountability is important and its what God wants.
5) Beth asked what triggers me to grab lies from time to time. It is absolutely, without a doubt, stess. Most recently, stress at work, but any stress can be a trigger.
This is absolutely the hardest bible study I have ever done, but I am so grateful that God has allowed me to be a participant. I am excited about growing and learning and changing.
3 – my current conviction from the Lord is about worry. I have always been a worrier, and never really dealt with it, because I thought "that's just the way I am!" Complete rationalization! When I finally came face to face with the SIN of worry, I realized that I have a choice to worry or not. I couldn't ignore it anymore. I confided to my husband about this, and he has begun to hold me accountable in this area, which I really appreciate. I am also consistently praying that the Holy Spirit will convict me BEFORE I actually begin to worry!
Talking about accountability, I just want to encourage those siestas out there who don't have an accountability partner. I know people have lots of reasons that they don't have a person like this in their lives, but you are missing out on such a HUGE blessing! God put my accountability partner and I together over 5 years ago, and I can't imagine getting thru life without her! We pray for each other, love on each other, encourage each other, speak the truth in love to each other…her presence is my life is so precious to me! So don't miss out – begin to pray that God will lead you to someone and you'll have the courage to reach out!
Mary Beth in St. Louis, MO (going solo)
Our group discussion started after we watched Jennifer and Beth’s video clips with one of the ladies asking, “How could someone like Beth Moore have insecurities?”
So we ask “what makes us insecure?” These are some of our answers, betrayal by someone close to us, satan’s attack, growing older and not being able to do things as well as we once did; which started our discussion of the statement “if I can do it anyone can” aren’t we suppose to be able to do everything, which lead to, “why do we compare ourselves to other women?” Lots of talk and tears. One of our ladies quoted her Aunt Mayse, “There’s nothing meaner than a mean woman!”
After we discussed the questions and shared how God has been dealing with us, we came full circle back to”insecurities”.
Our prayer and encouragement for each other is, “when the insecurities of this world come into our thought-closet, going to God’s Word will be our first desire, not our last resort.”
Ladies from Forsyth, MO (south of Springfield, where Jennifer Rothschild lives)
We love you Beth and Jennifer!
I'm a solo girl. I really appreciate this format, because it keeps me accountable to completing the study in a reasonable time! I know that I can't fall behind because Tuesday is "video day"! Thanks.
1) I don't generally think of myself as emotional, but this spoke to me in the area of parenting. I have two small children and parent solo most of the time, so a frequent emotion is frustration. Which leads to the thoughts: "My kids are impossible." or "Won't anyone listen to me?!!" The action is yelling or making a scene. I don't like that. So I'm making an effort to recognize when that emotion is taking hold and try to combat it.
2) I'm not sure about this. I can't really think of one defining circumstance, but I have an idea. I'll work on it.
3) Sounds like we have the same recurring conviction. My words. I used to be so careful, but now they get the better of me, and when I think of the way things come out of my mouth, it makes me cringe! I've been trying (though not hard enough) to memorize scripture and pray about the words of my mouth. The conviction started a few weeks ago with this doozy: Prov 12:18: Reckless words pierce like a sword, but the tounge of the wise brings healing.
4) I do not have an identified accountability partner, but I do have a very close group of prayerful friends and share different things with different people. I would like an accountability partner, but honestly, the reason I don't have one now is that I asked someone previously who turned me down. Instead, we started a small (3 people) prayer group that does have an accountability and honesty factor. It may not fit the textbook definition, but it works well for me.
Thanks for giving us solo girls an opportunity to participate in the group!
The group from Madison, Alabama, met again and the bonding is increasing each time we meet. It's going to be hard to just one last time! Bonding through God's Word. Just the best.
1) Emotion, thought, action. One lady said that the emotion of defensiveness led to thoughts of anger which led to "turning comments into insults".
2) Defining circumstance: Two sisters said the death of their mom when they were in their early 20s was their defining moment. Good that came out of it was that they had to reach for God and not a parent. Complications from it led to anger, resentment and not "growing up into an adult" like they should of at that age.
3) Most reoccurring conviction: All of us agreed with you, Beth! Our mouths! When will we be quiet? One lady shared that she kept talking because she wanted someone to tell her she was right! She loved knowing and hearing those words spoken to her.
4) Accountability partner: Challenges included lack of time, whether or not we trusted someone like that, whether we deep down truly wanted to held accountable. Ouch! We decided to trust God to send us someone if we didn't have anyone to approach.
Great study! So very thankful to be in God's Word this summer.
True Confessions of the MML sista's. 10 in Tulsa OK in a conf.room at lunchtime & 1 in TX 7-21-09
Today.. beyond my own misgivings, my own feelings of failure, emotional meltdowns, lack of confidence and lack of strength and on the verge of tears, I sent the email to meet for our MML study. The replies began with apologies..forgetting books, bibles, no time for homework, and on and on they came. It was stunning so many reasons(all very real and pressing) we could've used Not to meet.
But then the truth came to the surface with Natasha's email, how we come under attack when we are doing exactly what God wants us to do. (Every one of us in some way was being attacked) We all chose to meet anyway! We need each other! Praise God! 10 of us in the conference room at work in Tulsa, Oklahoma and one on the speaker phone from Hallsville, Texas.
We started with a prayer – and when the cd for worship wouldn't play Gwen suggested Yahoo music, and we listened to a powerful worship song about Stomping the devil under our feet!!
We only got into the second question before our time was up. We opened up with our struggles, and issues, talked about emotions, thoughts and the actions they lead to, we got very real. We ended with Kalein's song pick – it moved deep with in my spirit, and went around the room praying.
We were most thankful for every woman there today! God moved among us, His spirit was flowing. We overcame our own self convicting thoughts, we overcame the Roaring Lion who was shouting at our door. We overcame by encouraging each other to meet together regardless of what we lacked. We overcame because of our Love for the Lord, and the power in accountability! He was faithful and met us there.
Thank you Marybeth, Kathy, Natasha, Gwen, Carol, Ashlee, Kalein, Miranda, Monica & Judy, thank you for your Courage with a capital C, determination, and love, you are all an inspiration to me. Julie
Rankin, TX siestas had a great evening time together. We had a few technical issues, but we didn't let that keep us from loving Him or encouraging each other.
On p65 we discussed how at this moment a few of us have some specific things that are just consuming our thoughts. We are so focused on IT (whatever it is for each one) that we forget to look at what we do have in our lives and that we may be missing blessings because we are so caught up thinking about IT.
We also discussed our extended families and how this is an area of struggle for each of us. How we can get on a train and just ride it all the way across the country with complaining or frustrations. We decided that we needed to "4:8" our thoughts (p73) and remember that we do have family, and they are good people, just different and leave it at that.
The greatest areas of sin struggle that we discussed were:
1.words that we speak to others (that hurt them),
2.assuming that others don't care about us when maybe it wasn't even about us (they were focused on something else, they just didn't see us, etc.),
3. anger/defensiveness.
We discussed how sometimes our sin is because we just want someone to notice us or affirm us and that we need to use the Biblical truths to combat the lies from the enemy (the statements on p90 for example)
As the leader of the group I just want to give some PRAISE TO THE LORD!! We have seen the Lord do some awesome works in very specific issues that we have been praying about in the last 4 weeks. It's so cool to see Him answer prayer. Also, a BIG shout out to Beth for organizing this study. When we all got together the first time we all expressed a desire to have godly friendships. You would think it wouldn't be hard in a town with a population of 500ish (max…yes that's the population of our TOWN), but the enemy doesn't want us to band together and he's done a pretty good job or isolating for a long time. This has been such a neat way to fellowship and meet some sisters and we have been so blessed!
It was easy to track the emotions to actions-What isn't always easy is choosing to listen to Wisdom. I hear the alarms going off & well sometimes I just go ahead and pitch my fit–even if I am the only in the room! (I know: tisk,tisk, tisk-Gotta let that Watchman of my thought-closet (Wisdom)do Her job!)
The one defining circumstance from which other issues flow took some time to really think about…glad I took the time & pinpointed it!Can't help but feel like I'm trying to place blame though…
Recurrent convictions lately-it's funny because during the day an "issue" will pop up & I think to myself "where did you come from?" and then I get busy with the day–I forget to bring it before the Lord. Asking us to do this helped me to take the time to think about it & do just that! I'm so grateful.
Each of the folks in my group tonight, including me, had an accountability partner! Praise the Lord! There is safety in relationships!
Left tonight with a sweet, sweet peace that as we are in the trenches, dealing with our issues, God is preparing each of us for the specific call on our lives that we may stand strong & remain in the peace of God when the roaring lion attacks.
Becky-Mobile,Alabama
Six of us met tonight and we had a fantastic discussion mainly centered around how we want to stop thinking with our feelings. Instead, we recognize that love is not just a feeling but an action. When love is viewed as a feeling, it is easy to fall out of "love;" but when viewed as an action, it is something tangible that is worth holding on to even if the "feeling" temporarily isn't there.
We also talked about our defining circumstance and I think many of us were surprised to learn that we share a similar one. All of us recognize that we have to monitor how we let that defining circumstance become the center of how we react to situations. Instead, we have to define who we are in Christ and separate the past negative circumstances that may drive our response.
Finally, we agreed that accountability partners are a necessity of life and the invitation was extended to establish that relationship with someone, hopefully within our small group.
We are looking forward to finishing up the study and seeing what lies ahead.
Tammy Elrod
Mechanicsville, VA
The three of us in our group just finished meeting tonight. We all seem to be learning how our thoughts are attached to our emotions and behaviors. Getting truth to come in and replace the lies of the enemy is a challenge, but with prayer and accountability and the Word, it can be done..this study has been so rich in speaking to each of us in our group, especially related to our self esteem. We see the need to seek more of the Word to put truth in our thought closets. blessings, Pam in San Diego
Hey Siesta Mama Beth!
Wow week 3 out of 4! I am sad to say that this was my first time meeting with my group of Siesta Girlies, I have had to do it solo (it’s been a busy summer) But I do have to say it is WAY better with the girls! Anyways, I offered to leave the feedback to take some of the weight off of our “Mini Siesta Mama“. So here we go!
Task #1- (pg. 57) One of the gals brought up… that our emotions build on top of each other, and that when we think with our feelings we lose sense of reality- God’s reality. For instance let us say I am having my quite time one morning, and with that I decide to have a cup of Joe. I finish my quite time and go to get ready for the day. I reach into my cabinet to grab my “Bumpit“, to have that all empowering bump to get me set for the day. Low and behold it’s GONE! Well now, my day started out GREAT! But now here comes the emotions. Where could it be! Who could of taken it? Did my dog want her very own bump? How could anyone do this to me. As I search for it I get madder and madder. I search high and low for it. It is no where to be found. At this point I am so upset that I can not find it, my whole day is shot! So, was I following my emotional rollercoaster, letting my emotions stack up higher and higher, OR was it the Joe! (Sorry had to go there!)
Task #2 (pg. 65) -Our defining circumstance, I think the group was all in agreement that our childhood still effects us today. Things that were spoken to use growing up. Things like your not smart enough, you just an average student, ect. But we, like the woman with the issue of blood, need have faith and press through, press through to Jesus.
Task #3 (pg 81)- Most recurrent conviction lately, We all had different ones. But what we did agree on is the verse Psalms 39:1. The whole muzzle thing is right on.
Task # 4 (pg 88)- Accountability! I do believe the place where Satan likes us best is ALONE! We have to have an accountability partner, some of us have several, that’s cool. As long as we are not alone. Like it says in Ecclesiastes 4:12 Though one may be overpowered by another, two can withstand him. And a threefold cord is not quickly broken. And like Jennifer said it’s not me, myself, and I… It’s you, a buddy and Jesus!
Thank You for all you do Beth!!
Blessings to you from your
Siesta Girlies over here in Arizona!
Kim, Georgia, Denise, Lynette, Deanna, and Jennifer
Last night was truly Spirit led at bible study. Amazingly we discussed that a lot of christians try and hide their flaws instead of being real and admitting that we all deal with stuff… Most of the issues our group discussed were areas like insecurity, finances, young children and high expectations, and worry…..We all put it out there and many were able to learn and grow from others past mistakes. One thing we all walked away with was to focus on Titus 2 and begin to equip the women younger among us. We sometimes feel we are alone when we deal with our issues and our group is determined to reach out to others. We all agree that we appreciate your honesty and willingness to be transparent for a lot of women. We all need to be a little more like that. Thank you from all of us Siestas here in Plant City, FL
What an awesome night we had! The discussion and sharing is good that no one wants to go home! We really could just talk all night, and not about trivial stuff -we're talking God-stuff. All six of us are so thankful for this study and what it's doing in our lives. Thank you Beth and Jennifer – talk about a dynamic duo!
Here's some of what we discussed:
1. We all had to admit that "thinking with our feelings" has been a long standing practice with each of us. Funny thing is, it's not something that was obvious to us until this study pointed it out. It has been so ingrained in our nature that it was literally who we are. Or I should say, who we HAVE BEEN. Praise God we're are seeing those feelings for what they are – just feelings. And rarely are those feelings founded on truth; they are typical founded on a faulty assumption. Like I said, this study has been profound – and we're not even done yet!
2. The defining circumstance. What a time of sharing we had. One of our ladies, for the first time, could actually see just where much of her anger issue began. For the first time, she could see the beginning. Another was finally able to verbalize that defining moment in such as was as further the healing process. She's not completely healed of her issue yet, but she as able to say that God has brought her through much of that healing process.
3. Knowing your sin – man did that give us a wake-up call! Jennifer really did "get all in your business" on that one. Lots of good discussion with NO condemnation. And the part about knowing your weakness better than the enemy, well, those words were invaluable. That's one of those phrases you tuck away and keep referring back to to make sure you're still up to date on your sins.
4. Accountability – we all need it and we were all willing to give each other the right to call on and ask the hard questions -in love of course. The bonds of sisterhood have never been stronger. We are well on our way to a beautiful thought closet.
Our group of eleven women met last night. The discussion was very open. Some of our sin problem was our own pride, self-sufficiency, and judging others. A woman within our group made the statement as she had dealt with her own judgmental spirit, "I need to focus on my own closet. It takes me all day to keep my own laundry clean." And we certainly agreed.
Since our group consists of women in our church, it is not necessarily close friends who are already "accountability buddies" however there was more openness last night within our group once we touched on this topic. We determined that accountability buddies are sometimes for a season and may be someone who has been where we are already. Also, it is very important to be the kind of person who can be a good accountability partner: good listener, able to speak truth in love, person of integrity, and able to keep confidences.
We are thoroughly enjoying this study. Truly it is changing our thought closets and they will never be the same. God bless you and Jennifer!
Well Beth, Amanda, Melissa and LPM our group doesn't make it thru the four questions you give us! Much less a day by day review!! WOW! Still 6 of us strong. Our conversation went from dealing with emotions to why we are all being attacked heavily from the liar today. We have one group gathering to go, and he has attacked in making babies sick, keeping us late at work, to even small things like having your house in the middle of your husband's remodel (and it is the host home!!). As we all learn to clean out the junk, and get a truthful closet, and learn to stand with a fist raised high that says I KNOW THE TRUTH and I WILL LIVE BY THE TRUTH satan will attack us. But the saving grace to that (as we discussed last night) is we can stand firm in Christ and not be swayed or detered.
Thank you for picking this bible study for the summer. It has been a true blessing in so many ways that I can't even begin to list.
I am so amazed every time our group meets! Several of us had never met and we have become so close and so personal. Each meeting gets a little deeper. It's awesome to see how much we now depend on one another's support! We talked a lot about insecurities last night and how that begins the emotion-thought-action chain. Some ladies shared things in their life that have helped shape these insecurities it was so interesting to see the group just lift them up in prayer. We all became so connected with one another. Thank you so much for this!!
Talihina, OK Group
Keli
Susie
Katrina
Kortni
Sonya
Lula
Wanda
Morgan
Kathy
Ashley
Melissa
Sara
Beverly
Kari
Sharon
Our group actually started earlier so we completed the study last week and are having a celebration picnic tonight!! What a powerful study this has been and I personally have been beating the lies of the enemy in ways I never had before thanks to this study!!
I wanted to comment on the defining circumstance that becomes the headwater from which other issues flow. One of the gals in our study who has a jr. high child mentioned that she thinks so much of our issues we face today as adults probably originated in jr. high. That is when we have so many insecurities and we are so conscious of them. Those feelings then follow us into adulthood. The more I thought on that the more I was TOTALLY convinced of it. My insecurities can totally be traced back to my childhood – some jr. high and some earlier. SOOO many things I do and so many ways I act today are all due to my insecurities that started in my youth. For me, the defining circumstance that has TOTALLY caused most all my issues is being overweight as a child. Thanks to this study I am working on replacing the lies I have always believed because of that fact… like I must preform beings I don't have the looks, others don't like me because of my weight, I am not good enough, etc.
Thanks LPM for picking this study – it has been a lifechanging one for some ladies in SD!!
Our group started laughing and could not stop. Tears were rolling down our faces. Sider were hurting. I still had the hiccups when we went to bed.
Each member of our group is going through a season that is really challenging her thought closet, and we spent a significant amount of time talking about the battle. (This was NOT what got us laughing, btw.)One of our members is considering leaving a job where a Christian employer's walk does not match his talk. We pondered how we know when God calls us to stay in a difficult situation and when He is calling us out. We didn't come out with any great answers . . . but we did eventually start laughing.
I echo the other Siestas who have said this is the hardest study they have done.
The study sounds cute…cleaning out your thought closet…but this has been so incredibly deep. There were some days where I was still reeling from what I learned the day before and to glance and the upcoming days and say…whaaaat?? It is so much more than I ever anticipated. It has been such a blessing; but really hard!!!
( I'm still struck by the dicussion on page 61 and 62 regarding the reverance of God. It gave me a ton to think about.
Also what a peace it gave me to meditate on wisdom being the watchman at my closet door.)
1. I know I have a tendancy try and hide or ignore negative/overwhelming thoughts; taking part of my thought closet with me in a backpack. It just gets heavier and heavier until I just need to sit down for a moment to rest and then it all falls out.
I learned a year ago during the darkest season of my life of how dangerous this is to trust my feelings instead of God's wisdom and His truth.
And this statement of Jennifer's "that a surplus of emotion usually precedes acting without wisdom" really resonated with me. A reminder to just to deal with something immediately (no back packs allowed) and take it to God in prayer…there is no hiding in the light.
2. defining circumstance:
my childhood
3. conviction lately is faith….trusting God. Believing Him. Not putting anything else before Him. Idols of any kind.
This is where my Scripture memory has been such a powerful tool. The enemy tries to use my weakness…but God's truth says otherwise. And I love meditating on it even when I don't feel like it. I have index cards everywhere..my purse, next to my bed, bathroom counter, kitchen…
Also I realized scripture memory has helped me not be dull or tune out the enemy like she talked about. That got my attention. Being out in a jungle hearing lion roaring and not even bothered by it. That is not the state of mind I want to be in.
4. Accountability. I don't have this. I don't even know if it's fear…I could make excuses; we moved, live rurally but in reality it doesn't matter where or how long I have lived somewhere. I have my whole life just shied away from getting to close or sharing. Not that this is good. Just how I am. I will pray for accountability.
Thank you for this study.
Michelle in Vermont
We had another great gathering time last night. We really did get into one another's business and opened up about our 1 defining circumstance that has impacted our thought closets for a long time. When we came to the question about an accountability partner we are all at the same place, with no one to hold us accountable. We discussed the fear that comes with being vulnerable with someone and the fear of being judged. I think we all agreed we can be described as the strong and silent type…a dangerous place to be. We have decided we will continually meet after this Bible Study is over because it is so important.
Thanks again for facilitating this Bible Study! We are continuing to clean out our closets!
The Colorado Girls
Greetings from Karin, Sharon, and Shawna! Great discussions last night at Bible Study:
Emotions: While two of us could share stories of our emotions and feelings taking us on a journey to action that we later repented for, one group member shared the perspective of a very painful and difficult childhood on many fronts – where she cut herself off from her natural emotional responses in order to survive. Growing into adulthood her natural response can be one of detachment and to disengage. So she shared how God is restoring her emotions, restoring her feelings, and the incredible journey that has been. And that this study has come at such an incredible time, as she is now sharing the study and Jennifer's book on "Soul Talk" with her grown daughter – for some amazing healing in their family circle — God is good.
For all of us some of the core issues or headwaters came from initial experiences in our families of origin, that led to faulty assumptions about ourselves and our true natures. Some great time of prayer and conversation – reflecting on how God is so able to restore and heal. And what great "deeper" work this study is representing as to a person, we would describe those initial family issues and circumstances as "healed" or things that God has brought us "through". And yet, in our moments of sharing, realizing there are burdens associated with that – that we continue to carry. Not that we will ever forget things that have happened – but that the Spirit is opening up to each of us the fact that we are still "defining" ourselves, and naming ourselves out of those wounds – which is not his best for us.
We closed reading Psalm 103- and praised God that he remembers we all are but dust — but loves us mightily, and pours blessing and benefit on that dust!
Love to you
Shawna, Karin, Sharon
We can´t tell you how much we´re getting from this study! Our group (of 2) talked about the difference btween positive thinking out of our own effort (leaving us tired & leading to an explosive moment).. and truth thinking out of God´s Word (helping us rest in His presence & truth). I love how we´re facing all our thoughts & telling them where they belong so we can really stand ourselves on life-giving roots.
Loving this study with Jennifer, she is so very beautiful physically and spiritually….. I have a REAL problem with accountability partners, I confided a very personal and potentially hurtful situation to my pastors wife, and she in turn shared it in the most negative light she could to everyone who would listen, and this included the youth pastor's wife who promptly shared it with her family (including teenagers) at the dinner table who promptly shared it throughtout the yourth group who promptly shared it with their friends at school, who promptly ….. need I say more. We did not move although that might have been easier. I stayed in the church seeking restoration for 4 months but I became a pariah to my friends and family in the church. The good note, God bless His Holy Name healed us and continues to work in my family in wonderous ways, there are still ripples and gossip (some people never get enough) and random people still ask weird questions (this must be making you all curious sorry). I struggle with forgivness if I relate it too much so enough said… God bless them….JUST BE CAREFUL who you share with and if you are confided in consider the HOLY TRUST put in you and beware because God is near the broken and contrite of heart.
Shalom
Oh I forgot in my raving soap box the say:
My deepest conviction currently is to rise early 5 am and be before the Lord during this time, we are always very late to bed for valid and assorted reasons so this is hard for me, but God doesn't seem to care about my excuse He daily convicts me for this time.
My triggers are insecurity and a messy house, really, I feel out of control and resentful and my mind tells me all kinds of mean things about the people around me.
Never make discisions or listen to yourself when..
On too much caffien
When hungry
When on your period
When having a bad hair day
When you have just returned from camp, or ladies retreat, or mission trip ect. and the unavoidable trip down the mountain top begins
When you are in a time crunch
When the house is really messy
Shalom
Great study
doing it solo
Judy Heindl
Cottageville WV
We had a wonderful Bible study time Tuesday morning. Discussing emotions to actions revealed some of us deal with or have dealt with co-dependency, which is the epitome of “thinking with our feelings”. We shared that sometimes we resent what we’ve let our feelings get us into—taking on a chore, running an errand, or accepting a commitment we didn’t really want but said yes to for fear of disapproval. Two of us discussed our defining circumstance and the discussion turned pretty serious. However, it allowed for some venting and some encouragement from our sisters in Christ. Some recurrent convictions discussed involved soap operas and book choices. And for our last assignment, we each have a “study buddy” now. Yea!! We’re really enjoying this time together and this Bible study.
Well, I am totally bummed! I previewed your video, Beth, took down the suggested points to discuss, came up w/a couple of points to work into those discussion questions, prepared my home for our meeting, and NO ONE SHOWED UP!!! Now, I realize it is summer and everyone has stuff going on. But the night before was our monthly Bunko night, I was hostess, and NO ONE SHOWED UP! Seriously trying NOT to take this personally. I'm kinda ramroding a church-wide swim party tonight….if no one shows up, I'm gonna lock myself away in my house – just me and Jesus….and maybe I'll let my husband in…sometimes.
West Texas Girl
Judie
First I just have to say that God is way in our business this summer! Kudos to Jennifer for listening to God and putting this intense study together. We have been so convicted by it and will be so blessed for it!
1. We discussed the path we take from emotion to action. We found that one major emotion we react to is our hurt feelings. We think all kinds of thoughts when our feelings are hurt…a lot of them downright lies. We then act upon these thoughts in not so wonderful ways.
2. One of the shared headwater topics in our group was a former spouse. Many issues flow from the dissolved marriage because there is a child involved and therefore the spouse still remains a force to be reckoned with . Issues such as anger, resentment, jealousy, and fear.
3. In our discussion of current sins God is calling us to deal the topics were pride, being judgmental and a lack of tithing. We discussed how sometimes it's hard to discern what measure God wants us to take. How we need to have faith like the woman with the issue of blood that if we will just reach out and touch Him we will be healed. How enlisting prayer from friends is crucial to bring the wisdom we need. A great transition into question 4…
4. We definitely see a need for accountability. Examples were shared of going to someone in our Bible Study group who you know has dealt with what you are now going through and seeking their advice and prayer. Being in contact with each other and open with each other so that when the enemy is lying to you a sister can say that's the enemy.
Obstacles to accountability: Past betrayals, shyness, fear of being judged, and pride.
Solutions: Pray that God will show you the right person to confide in. Start with some small things you need to work on to build the confidence. Just do it!
Connie, Melanie, Nikki, Sharon and Pam
Dublin, VA
1. When I think with my feelings, I am their slave when I am angry. This causes problems for me.
3. My most recurrent conviction has been thinking bad words when I am not happy with the way things are going. I am asking God to help me when it's a rough situation.
4. I have a friend named Saundra that I meet with or talk on the phone with weekly. We meet for about an hour to go for a walk and talk about life and all of it's glories and trouble. At the end of our time, we take turns praying for the needs the other person has mentioned. It really lightens the load.
Life is humbling me to see that my circumstances are only temporary. Appear to be a "big talker" in front of others. But know who I am in my darkest moments when life brings you to your knees especially when alone with just my thoughts. I cry out to God Most High to God, who fulfills (his purpose) for me. Psalm 57:2
We had a great time together, where we can be open and share what's really on our mind. We taked about being accountable for each other even after we finish this study. That we can always talk to each other and know that it will not go anywhere.
Heather
Ashley
Mandy
Carolyn